Address: Norfolk, Virginia
United States of America
Phone Number: 703.955.3708
(Jamie claims to live in Virginia but claims he travels all over the world for work)
Other Comments: LOL, Oh my goodness, LOL, I cannot believe it. The following from the Alan Armstrong post is almost an exact quote from an email Jamie Grant sent to me early July 2009.
[quote]It's 4.00am of the day and I was thinking about you, as usual. I want you to know how much I sincerely love the countless hours we spend talking. It means so much to me. It truly seems like I've known you forever and I honestly can't imagine life without you now. There will be no looking back, no second thoughts and no regrets. I love you and only you ... and that love will only grow stronger. Sometimes life hits you with unexpected things that take you totally by surprise. All I can say is you're the best surprise life has given me and your capacity for love, caring, and understanding never ceases to amaze me. I've truly been blessed by finding you and I'll never let you go.[/Quote]
The only difference in his email to me was 'it's the evening of the day'
LADIES BEWARE!!! This guy is either sharing text with other male sammers or he is now calling himsef JAMIE GRANT, emails I know: Jamie_Grant09@yahoo.com or email@example.com. YM address is also Jamie_Grant09@yahoo.com. As of tonight, 07/14/2009, he is still on Yahoo and MySpace.
JAMIE GRANT contacted me through MySpace with this message:
[Quote]Hello dear , Am so much captivated by your profile and pics i would love to get to know you more better as you can see i have alot on my profile that tells about me .Am Jamie Grant by name ..Am from Norfolk Va .i would love to have a chat with you and share more about each other on there as well ....my yahoo ID is firstname.lastname@example.org add me to your list am online now , you can also send me your yahoo ID so that i can add you to my list ..hope to hear back from you soon dear
Have a wonderful day ahead
Jamie claims that: he was widowed 4 years ago when his wife died in a car accident, he has two kids (Janie & Steve) both at Oxford University, UK, and that he holds a BS, MS, & Ph.D. all in math. Claims that he is self-employed as a construction project manager ($250,000+/yr). Says his father was German, mother was Spanish. Calls his accepnt 'a heavy German accept' but it sounds French to me. He sometimes speaks playfully high voiced with heavy accent, but when off-guard speaks in a slower deeper tone with slight accent.
He claims he has not dated in the 4 years since his wife died (Spring 2005) in a car accident when she was delivering a big check to the orphanage in New Mexico.
He told me not to speak to any other men, to close down my MySpace page, and he even asked me for my MySpace login and password so his daughter Janie could add some things. LOL, what a guy, eh?
Claims to live in Norfolk, VA and also has a home in Plano, TX.
He 'fell in love' with me within first week, 5 days after I replied to his message he said he had to go to Denmark to put a bid on a job. Then the games began.
First he asked me for, and unfortunately for me, got me to WU $100 to an orphanage. When i asked for the 501(c)(3) nonprofit info, he got upset and said it was new. I am a strong Christian and thought, oh, I can give $100 to the kids. It's God's money, I don't need the tax deduction. Stupid me.
This man asked me, but did not get answers to: (1) when I bought my home and how much I paid for it, (2) my mother's maiden name; (3) last 4 digits of my SS#, (4) for one of my credit card numbers.
He said one of his clients didn't want to pay him but he would pay me. So he wanted me to give him the above information so the client could put the money into my credit card account then I would transfer it to him. HA! I asked him if I had I AM AN IDIOT stamped on my head. LOL He got very upset.
Then, he asked me for $1,200 to get the bid for the construction job in Denmark. Then he said he needed $1,700 for an airline ticket home. He said he's always paid cash and thought they'd give him $3.5 mil in cash rather than check. LOL, yeah, right. Then he said that he was picked up by police at Copenhagen airport because he skipped out on some of the hotel bill. But, he wan't jailed, lol. Rather the 'manager' was making him stay there (for 3 weeks so far) until he could come up with money to pay for the room. LOL, oh, yeah, right. The manager lets him stay free of charge for 3 weeks until he pays the $1200 he owes for one week's stay? LOL
So, up to yesterday a.m. he has been trying to get $1500 out of me so he can pay the manager $1200 for the first week and laptop rental Oh, yes, he claimed that he pawned his laptop and an Italian suit for money so he now has to rent the laptop. He asked me to pawn my personal and household goods up to $1200 when I told him I didn't have the cash to send him. LOL, then he asked if I would fly to Virginia and pawn items from his house. HA, yeah, right. He was going to send me to rob someone's house? LOL
BEWARE, he even set up fake YM address claiming to be his dauther Janie Grant at Oxford UK who only seemed to IM me when Jamie and I were chatting and she would always say 'please don't hurt my dad' right before he asked me for money. This guy tries to cover his bases, lol. But, there are always holes in the story, and I hammered him with questions all the time. LOL, I keep laughing today about how hard this guy had to work trying to scam me.
He sent me flowers and a teddy bear the Thursday before 4th of July holiday. Then, called me that night to say, 'I showed you I love you today with the flowers. Now, you show me you love me and send me the money I need.' NOT!
LOL, but I work for a huge international law firm and the idiot knew it. I played along and finally, yesterday morning I told him I'd try to send him the money and asked where to WU the cash. He gave me This information: Olawale John, 3 Adeyemi Street, Ikeja, Lagos, Nigeria 23401 'What is money for: Bills'
Then, he made the mistake of texting me, for the first time I might add, from the JamieCool@a.smsaa.com address. I Googled that and bingo! It let me here to this dating scam site.
I emailed and texted him that he was going down and should I notify Homeland Security about this. THIS GUY DOESN'T FALL DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT, lol. He bombarded me with emails but didn't realize he was sending them to my law firm email. lol, which are saved FOREVER. When I told him 'I am at work and very busy' he then said, 'oh, okay honey, do good at work' and stopped. Until I got home. He bombarded my IM with threatening, 'You'll regret sending me away' and called me 20 times on my pda between 12:45 a.m. and 3:45 a.m. I had the sense to turn off my pda before going to bed.
I could go on and on. He endless IMs, emails and phone calls. Sometimes giving me zero or 2-3 hours sleep night after night. But, just be warned. This guy is a PEST and he has no problems using Jesus' name to try and get his money. Sending me Scripture every morning, obviously copied off the internet.
LADIES BEWARE. This guy talks a good talk in the name of Jesus and does seem to know his Bible.
I am going to notify MySpace and see if I can get him off of there.
At the very least, I hope this info helps someone out there. This is CURRENT. This guy contacted me June 7 and I got a Bible Scripture from him when I got to work today. After that, it has been quiet. But, it's been one heck of a wild and crazy month!
To answer, Your question about language.
Scammers surprise, Me all the time how that can scam
anyone at all. The biggest telling thing about them not
knowing English at all is evedenced by the photo's they allow
themselves to be taken holding sign's that say rediculus
things because they can't read English.
It makes, You wonder how they manage to chat at times. LOL
Yes they use things that are in English from other victims.
They usually have a boss that speaks enough English to help
out at times when they get stuck.
I'm sure they use any source they can for other languages also.
Its no harder for them to fake Spanish than English.
They don't know either one. LOL
German or anything that comes up.
They just make a excuse in each case.
As for the back ground in the photo, You posted it would be speculation
at best to think that photo of the guy isn't actually stolen or has any
connection to the scam. Most photo's are stolen from Americans
so the back ground can look similar often.
It is easy to lose sight that the scammer is actually a Black Guy
sitting in a Internet cafe. As for outside connections to scammers
in West Africa. I know for certain of a Denmark connection.
It also has been said Russian Scammers may have taught
the Africans all they know.
But other International implications are present as well.
Even USA and Canada, Austrailia.
I do not know if, I have answered anything or made more questions ?
Visit www.419eater.com You will see hundreds of real scammers
holding sign's that they cannot read. LOL
How they get them to pose for the shot's is a mystery to me.
But these idiots fall for it all the time.
I will post one picture from there here for, You.
It really highlights how they do not even know what is being said.
Yet people fall in Love by their smooth talk ?
It just doesn't add up. LOL
Good morning, Agent 86! It's <>< here :)
Thank you so much, and YES! You absolutely answered my question. LOL, I laugh at this photo every time I see it. And many other photos as well. Oh, my, I certainly needed this laugh. Thanks, Agent.
Good point about the language issue. LOL, you are right. They would do just like they did trying to speak English. They would try and fake it or ignore the question. And, you are also right about how in the world did I ever get scammed at all. He claimed to have a 'heavy German accept' (that never sounded German to me) and I figured he wrote English like he spoke. Man! I get so pissed off that I did not listen to my gut from day one. I had NO clue about scammers, I was ignorant. I was not on any dating site or even looking to date. He hit me on MySpace and rathe than delete like I do all other messages, I was stupid enough to respond to his message and the rest is the unfortunate result.
LOL, they are idiots, arent they, LOL. I have been quite entertained getting my scammer identification education and seeing what greedy idiots these scammers are via YouTube, LOL!!!.
The picture my scammer used on MySpace (attached again here for easy reference) never seemed right to me. I'd ever seen anywhere I'd been here in America. It just stood out to me. Here is even a bit of an IM conversation of me asking Jaimie, again, where it was taken:
Jamie (7/16/2009 3:36:49 PM): I love you baby and i wanna be with you
Me (7/16/2009 7:37:53 PM): Honey, the picture I am looking at right now on IM. Where are you? Where was that taken?
Me (7/16/2009 7:38:07 PM): Is that in Virginia?
Me (7/16/2009 7:38:31 PM): My picture was taken last Christmas in my family room in front of my Christmas tree.
Jamie (7/16/2009 3:38:25 PM): Oh yeah i told you before hony
Jamie (7/16/2009 3:38:27 PM): honey
Me (7/16/2009 7:39:15 PM): No, honey. I asked you before where the picture was taken but you never answered me.
I saw a video of a internet-cafe raid and I swear the 'landscaping' looked like this photo could have been taken in the 'neighborhood' near that raid. LOL! I agree with you, Agent, the man in this photo is almost certainly a victim of photo theft. But, it did make me ask myself if these idiots Photoshopped a stolen photo into a picture of their own backyard. LOL. Or, if possibly, the man in this photo was a scammer or scammer boss from another country. What I am 100% sure of is that my scammer WAS a scammer and there was nothing real about any of it.
Wow, so you DO know of a Denmark scammer connection! That is good to know. I had no clue about these scammers before my scam. My scammer claimed to be stuck in Denmark. Although not a single IP address was from Denmark, he claimed to be there.
Seeing an IP hit in the Russian Federation surpised me. But, then again, many of the 'female' scammers claim to be Russian women stuck in Nigeria, right?
The 3 US IP addresses was a real hit for me. My scammer had me WU my hard earned money to 2 women here in the U.S. But, I'm working on that quietly. :)
Thanks for sharing the 419eater site, I'm going to pop over there from here. LOL.
I know I am forgetting to ask something else... Oh, well, I'll pop back over and post if I think of it. It's still early, I'll make another espresso, maybe that will jog my mind.
This is a tough fight sometimes but it's a necessary!
Thanks for your responses, Agent.
Be safe, be smart, and be blessed, Eveyone <><
[hidden] from United States
I remembered my question, Agent!
I've read your posts to victims here that once a scammer has our email address they will try and come at us in different ways so we should be aware.
Is there any possibility that the obvious and sudden landslide of emails hitting my spam filter over the last couple of weeks: 'Find Christian Love - free' 'Find true love' 'Christian Singles', etc. are result of my scammer having my name on a scammer list? I'd get maybe one email of this type a month prior to about 2 weeks ago. Now, they come all day every day. I delete 2-4 at a time, several times a day.
It's odd because, as I've posted before, I have never been a member of any online dating site, and now there is NO way I will EVER be one. So it's not like one dating site sold my info to another.
I'm off to the 419eater site. I'll be back here later today to see if I can encourage and/or assist anyone posting here.
Good Morning to, You
Nice to see, Your doing well.
I read, Your postings.
You hit the nail on the head about the photo's be altered.
I will attach a example that only a blind person could miss. LOL
My scammer sent, Me a video of, Her dancing.
Of course it was a stolen video. The sound tract had been changed.
So, I heard, Her talk to me then African music.
When, I finally found that same video on Julie's web site, I played
it and heard and saw just how it had been changed.
I am sorry to say that yes once, Your e mail address is obtained
by a single scammer normally after a period of time either
that scammer or others will show up. My connection to my scammer.
Started a International flood and they say, They got my address from
a listing of known business men. LOL Then when, I first came to
Delphifaq, I was very determined to fight scammers and posted my
address on here. Well that opened up the flood gates for real.
Some times, I will warn people not to post their address and they
do not have theirs removed right away.
Well a month may go by or even longer.
They comment that it hasn't happened to them. LOL
The reality is it may not have happened yet but will in time.
Scammers are unpredictable, You never know when they gather
the addresses from any given place.
Then all of a sudden nearly 100 or more a day show up.
I have got it down to around 2 or 3 per hour on average now.
The other way scammers obtain addresses has happened by a
ex contributor to this site harvesting the addresses from this site.
He illegally hacked the system and could not understand
why everyone was mad at, Him.
That guy is the one, I mentioned from Denmark.
He contacted all the current contributors and solicited money for
what, He calls scam buster out of Ghana. [ Cagekopia ]
If one looks back far enough on Osai Williams thread, His postings
from before are still there.
Another method scammers use to obtain addresses is via surveys
from places like Wendy's, Wal Mart, Etc. Their security for their sites
is not up to standard as to what it should be.
Eventually scammers obtain a address through many sources.
A guy asked how scammers got, His address and, I had to tell, Him
well first of all, You just posted it in the worse place in the World
on this site. LOL
I have a friend who for some reason won't write, Me a e mail but wants,
Me to go on face book. LOL From what, I have seen reported here
there is no way, I will ever use face book.
My space is another such place, I want nothing to do with.
What people do not realize is often while, You personally
never went on line and exposed, Yourself to scammers.
All it takes is someone, You know on line that gets their information
stolen and they may not even know themselves that it happened.
Then the scammer contacts everyone that was listed on, Your
Bottom line is with a lot of care and being cautious over time
scammers will find a away to get, Your information and, You may
never know how they got it.
Once a person has been scammed once usually is all it takes.
To start a slow but steady growing flood of scammers.
But nothing even comes close to what happens if a scammer
gets, Your address off here. LOL
Some advertisers once they find, You actually sell, your address
to others. Much of those that are business adds can be unsubscribe.
Usually at the bottom of their add is a place that's says Opt out or
unsubscribe. Do that to everyone of them, You can.
But be careful some are fake. Never open a attachment from
anyone, You do not know. E Cards are another bad one.
I do not open them unless, I see the name of who sent it.
I missed several real cards but better safe than sorry.
I lost one computer but no big loss as, I enjoy my new lap top
much better. LOL
Truly once a person has been scammed it is only the beginning
that's why, I stress that person take the time to learn everything
they can about scams and scammers.
Well time for another cup of Joe for me.
Hope, You enjoyed 419eaters LOL
Kind Regards Agent 86 Maxwell Smart \\'^o^'// <><
This photo was used in a scam and claimed everyone in the picture
were related and the photo was taken at a family reunion. LOL
OJAS from United States
Good article, Agent 86.
Sometimes people fill their info to enter free raffle, first it gets into spam database(s) and scammers buy them for under a cent per 10 e-mail addys!
anonymous from United States
Hey, Agent, thanks for the awesome information/education, and good morning!
LOL, yes, these scammers don't always put 'quality' into their shopping their photos, do they. I never exchanged photos with my scammer. I had the photo off his profile and he had the ONE off mine. I found the second photo of Jamie, with the glasses, (lol, is that even the same guy? lol) on his Tagged.com profile.
Unbelieveable about the Danish thief right here on Delphi! He's not still around here, is he? So, there IS a connection to scammers in Denmark. That helps me more than you know. Even after 'Nigeria' finally surfaced in Jamie's story, I found Delphi, etc. I continued to waffle emotionally because nothing I read anywhere had scammers claiming to be stuck in or connected to Denmark. I know my scammer was never in Denmark thanks to IP addresses, but at least my confusion is gone now.
Also, I am now certain the reason my spam filter is catching a FLOOD of 'dating' emails is because I was scammed. I never open them, just delete and empty trash and constantly run clean-up and checks on my computer. I probably get 20 a day and it just started about 2 weeks ago.
Thanks for the reminder to 'opt out' of business ad emails. I actually just delete without opening but I suppose I should go in and request removal. I ignore surveys, thank goodness. I, too, have deleted genuine ecards. But, like you point out, better safe than sorry.
I am about to close my MySpace page. I only had it for keeping up with my son and daughter in law who live 1,300 miles from me, and Christian musicians. My scammer contacted me though a mesage on MySpace. I was STUPID enough to respond to the message rather than DELETE like I had all the other mesages I've received.
Thankfully, I have never posted photographs or videos on MySpace or Facebook, etc. The only friends I accepted on my page were my son, daughter in law, a brother in law, and Chrisitian musicians.
I have taken your advice and I am learning everything I can about scammers. If I had known about these West African sociopaths I would not have made the mistakes I made with 'Jamie Grant'. Even after I found Delphi, by Googling the strange email domain my scammer used one morning, I only read a few of the original posts made by victims. So, I was still ignorant! I left the site still thinking that my scammer was some American dude taking advantage of mature [older, lol] women online by claiming to be stuck in Denmark. I was so angry I battled it out with him for a few more weeks (STUPID ME!). Agent, it was when you set me straight (I will always call it 'my intervention') that I realized this was a black man, or several black men, in Nigeria scamming me. Thank you!
I am learning everything I can about these scammers. I am also into educating people about these scammers. It was difficult to admit that I was scammed the first couple of times, but it gets easier each time I educate someone. I feel like each person we educate, is one less victim the scammers will have. Well, that's my hope, anyway.
Man, it's difficult trying to forgiving myself for being so stupid. But, I'm trying. Losing the money was difficult, and I thank God that I had the sense to never give in and send him that last $1,500 he fought hard to get for almost 4 weeks, but the emotional process has been rough. Having to disconnect all emotions, thoughts, images, etc from the photo of a blonde man in 'Virginia' and connect it all to a bunch of thug Nigerians is one of the most difficult, and humiliating, things I've ever had to do.
So, thanks Agent, OJAS, and everyone else here. Without finding Delphi and my 'intervention' I might still be prey to my scammer.
I will make a separate post here today to try and educate victims that may read here. It's an IM wth a range of tactics scammers take. LOL, it was after I knew he was scamming me but before I knew about Nigerian scammers.
Now, time for church, then back to getting educated!
Stay Safe, Stay Smart, Get Educated, and Be blessed, All! <><
anonymous from United States
Agent 86, yes, indeed, I enjoyed 419eater, LOL. I registered :) :) I love it!
OJAS, thanks for the post re free raffles. I had no idea sites sell info to scammers! What slime balls.
anonymous from United States
Time for some scammer IM 101, LOL.
Now that I'm healing and it's easier to share, I thought I'd post this IM between me and my scammer. It's a good IM because he uses several scammer techniques w/in one IM. Poor grammar, how they will pretend to be someone else to try and get what they want, that they IM multiple victims at the same time, how they ignore a question they don't want to or cannot answer, etc.
This IM came late in the scam after I confirmed he was a scammer but before I knew about Nigerian scammers. I still thought he was some man from Norfolk, Virginia trolling for women to rip off via the internet. I was angry and trying to push back at him the way he had pushed me for 6 weeks. I am NOT suggesting you do this. Break contact, don't deal with your sammer in any way.
My scammer had claimed for 3-4 weeks he was being held captive by a hotel manager in Copenhagen because he couldn't cash a $3.7 mil check to pay for 1 weeks hotel expense. He had asked me several times to talk to, IM, email, etc. various people for various reasons. Now, my scammer is going to pretend to be the hotel manager and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity for a good laugh.
You cannot see it here, but when my scammer began to play the part of the hotel manager, he simply changed to big bold font, lol. That begins with 'Hello. Are U his wife?'. I've pointed out in brackets change in scammer technique.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:16:14 AM): hold the manager is at the door now
Me (7/18/2009 4:17:01 PM): It is 12 a;.m. there now? Why is manager at the door?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:16:58 AM): i dont know
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:16:59 AM): hold
Me (7/18/2009 4:18:32 PM): why is your status changing from idle to normal back to idle to normal and over and over?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:18:19 AM): back
Me (7/18/2009 4:19:08 PM): U R back?
Me (7/18/2009 4:19:27 PM): then why not say something?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:19:33 AM): the manager is at my room now
Me (7/18/2009 4:19:55 PM): oh, really?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:19:47 AM): seeing what am typing to you
Me (7/18/2009 4:20:21 PM): Then I suppose I shouldn't call him the IDIOT that he is.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:20:32 AM): he said he want me get him part of the money
Me (7/18/2009 4:21:06 PM): Oh, really.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:21:02 AM): yeah
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:21:05 AM): omg
Me (7/18/2009 4:21:28 PM): what is OMG?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:21:17 AM): at my back now
Me (7/18/2009 4:21:49 PM): what does 'at my back now' mean?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:21:53 AM): the manager is at my back talking to me
Me (7/18/2009 4:22:19 PM): Oh, what is he saying?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:22:03 AM): but i never answer him with a word
Me (7/18/2009 4:22:47 PM): So, he sees you just sitting here typing to me while you do not respond to him?
Me (7/18/2009 4:23:01 PM): The strangest situations occur there in Denmark.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:23:16 AM): yeah it does
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:23:26 AM): i hope God help me out and i get my ass home to you
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:23:34 AM): he say who are you talking to
Me (7/18/2009 4:23:55 PM): That is my prayer too.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:23:43 AM): but i am really pissed now and i replied him my wfe
Me (7/18/2009 4:24:03 PM): Tell him you are talking to your wife TO BE
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:23:47 AM): wife to be
Me (7/18/2009 4:24:31 PM): why is it his business who you are talking to?
Me (7/18/2009 4:24:58 PM): I'd love to tell him exactly what I think of him.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:24:42 AM): i wonder
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:24:56 AM): he want talk with you but i said NO
Me (7/18/2009 4:25:37 PM): OH, proabably a good thing because I don't think he would like, or you would like, what I might say to him.
Me (7/18/2009 4:25:42 PM): It certainly wouldn't be nice.
Me (7/18/2009 4:25:51 PM): I am not afraid of that man.
Me (7/18/2009 4:26:25 PM): Does he always pop into your room in the middle of the night?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:26:14 AM): talk to him please
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:26:25 AM): he never pop into my room like this
Me (7/18/2009 4:26:42 PM): You want me to tell him what an IDIOT HE IS
Me (7/18/2009 4:26:51 PM): What a fool, he is?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:26:34 AM): but now he said i most pay him today
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:26:43 AM): hold talk to him
Me (7/18/2009 4:27:09 PM): What a dishonest businessman he is?
Me (7/18/2009 4:27:31 PM): You sir are a disgraceful excuse for a human being.
---[okay, the font changed, LOL, enter the 'hotel manager']---
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:27:40 AM): hello
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:27:47 AM): r u his wife?
Me (7/18/2009 4:28:09 PM): No, I am not his wife.
Me (7/18/2009 4:28:24 PM): I am his girlfriend
Me (7/18/2009 4:28:35 PM): His online girlfriend, I have never met him face-to-face.
Me (7/18/2009 4:28:42 PM): And, who, may I ask, are you?
Me (7/18/2009 4:29:03 PM): I would like the courtesy to know who I am talking to, please
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:28:55 AM): i am the hotel manager of where he is
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:28:58 AM): i need my money
Me (7/18/2009 4:29:17 PM): what hotel is that sir.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:29:15 AM): even if he cant pay all i want him to pay part or else i will evict him out of here
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:29:26 AM): royal solad hotel [LOL, no such hotel exists, I checked, lol]
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:29:33 AM): we are new and best so far
Me (7/18/2009 4:30:20 PM): Well, to be honest, I do not understand why you have kept him prisoner there for so long.
Me (7/18/2009 4:30:35 PM): Why didn't you evict him sooner?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:30:30 AM): because i need him to pay for a week he owe
Me (7/18/2009 4:30:59 PM): Sir, if you are truly a business man,
Me (7/18/2009 4:31:25 PM): Don't you see that you lost far more money by keeping him there 3-4 weeks for free just to collect 1 week's rent?
Me (7/18/2009 12:31:16 AM): i am just be calm with him because when he came to this hotel hes a nice man indeed but now i think he dont wanna pay our money because i heard he wont the bidding he came here for
Me (7/18/2009 4:31:56 PM): Excuse me? He won't get the bidding he came for?
Me (7/18/2009 4:32:13 PM): He told me he got the bid
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:31:52 AM): i dont kia about the lost , thats the way i am .he should pay me this and i will let him go
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:32:06 AM): even if he refuse to pay am gonna let him go to jail for this
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:32:10 AM): bet it with me
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:32:37 AM): i am being patient enough i know this
Me (7/18/2009 4:33:03 PM): Oh, really? You don't care about losing 3-4 weeks rent on that room? But you will jail a man for 1 weeks rent?
Me (7/18/2009 4:33:14 PM): I thank you for your patience sir.
Me (7/18/2009 4:33:25 PM): I just have not understood any of this, to be honest.
Me (7/18/2009 4:33:43 PM): I work for an international law firm in banking and mergers & acquisitons law.
Me (7/18/2009 4:33:52 PM): And, deal with many European banks.
Me (7/18/2009 4:34:15 PM): I have never known a business to feel it is best to lose 3-4 weeks income to try and collect 1 week's income.
Me (7/18/2009 4:34:34 PM): I have never understood any of this.
Me (7/18/2009 4:35:10 PM): To be honest, I was quite surprised when you didn't have him jailed right off.
Me (7/18/2009 4:35:25 PM): I am not saying that I want him to be in jail. Do not misunderstand that.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:35:23 AM): oh okk then i am ready to let him go to jail for this
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:35:28 AM): dont worry i am done with you
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:35:41 AM): then i will go ahead with your word
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:35:44 AM): get him jail
Me (7/18/2009 4:36:08 PM): I have no worries about you sir.
Me (7/18/2009 4:36:17 PM): I have no money to give to you.
Me (7/18/2009 4:36:28 PM): You sound just like Jamie.
Me (7/18/2009 4:36:39 PM): You turn my words into your own peculiar understanding.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:36:40 AM): nice to talk to you anyway , i will start action right away , i never ask you for money and i never care who you are [LOL, he's ticked off at what I'm saying but has to keep playing the part of the hotel manager, lol]
Me (7/18/2009 4:36:59 PM): Or, is this Jamie claiming to be a hotel manager?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:37:02 AM): i am the manager and i dont care whatever you think i am
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:37:11 AM): just letting you know my action
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:37:15 AM): bye
Me (7/18/2009 4:37:35 PM): Bye
---[OK, 'hotel manager' exist stage left, Jamie the scammer takes his place, lol]---
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:37:48 AM): hey [my name] , are you silly why do you say i am claiming like him
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:37:56 AM): now you are putting me into problem here
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:38:06 AM): why cant you just talk with calmness for once
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:38:12 AM): hes dragging me now
Me (7/18/2009 4:38:33 PM): if that was him, he does not frighten me. I told him exactly what I thought of his business practices.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:38:23 AM): you cause this [my name] , i hate it that you doubt me [scammer puts blame on me]
Me (7/18/2009 4:38:47 PM): I told him it makes no sense to lose 3-4 weeks income to try and gain 1 week income
Me (7/18/2009 4:38:51 PM): guess he didn't like it.
Me (7/18/2009 4:39:16 PM): What did you want me to tell him, Jamie.
Me (7/18/2009 4:39:23 PM): That I think he is a wonderful man?
Me (7/18/2009 4:39:27 PM): He is not a wonderul man.
Me (7/18/2009 4:40:04 PM): I told him I deal with international business law and I've never seen anyone consider this type of business a way to do business.
Me (7/18/2009 4:40:12 PM): I told him that none of this has ever made sense to me.
Me (7/18/2009 4:40:21 PM): I told him EXACTLY WHAT I THINK OF IT!
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:41:22 AM): ok hold
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:41:29 AM): talking with am
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:41:39 AM): am pleading but hes really angry
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:41:44 AM): hold mylove
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:41:46 AM): i love you
Me (7/18/2009 4:42:30 PM): ok will hold while you deal with that poor excuse for a human being.
Me (7/18/2009 4:44:07 PM): Oh, btw, you say that I cause this? 'you cause this [my name] ' Oh, really?
Me (7/18/2009 4:44:18 PM): This is all my fault? I think not.
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:49:46 AM): ha back
Me (7/18/2009 4:50:13 PM): The man is an IDIOT and a very poor businessman.
Me (7/18/2009 4:50:30 PM): And, btw, what did he mean that he heard you will not get the bidding you came there for?
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:50:43 AM): Very idiot
Jamie (7/18/2009 12:50:49 AM): stinky head [now, he's going to drop over to chat w/another victim, wait for me to go offline, pass me off to another scammer, etc., but I'm about to slam him like he slams me]
Me (7/18/2009 4:51:22 PM): What is his name?
Me (7/18/2009 4:51:33 PM): I was going to ask him for his name but he left.
Me (7/18/2009 4:51:40 PM): I have the name of the hotel, I can research it.
Me (7/18/2009 4:52:13 PM): are you still here?
Me (7/18/2009 4:54:52 PM): Wow, really got booted. Threw me completely out of IM
Me (7/18/2009 4:54:55 PM): You still here?
Me (7/18/2009 4:55:41 PM): Jamie, you reading this that I am typing to you?
Me (7/18/2009 4:56:15 PM): U there?
Me (7/18/2009 4:56:29 PM): I saw some typing flash up but disappear
Me (7/18/2009 4:57:09 PM): can see 'Jamie is typing a Message' but nothing comes up.
Me (7/18/2009 4:57:59 PM): still cannot see your worlds. Are you IMing me?
Me (7/18/2009 4:58:14 PM): Only see 'Jamie is typing a message' over and over but never the message.
Me (7/18/2009 4:58:53 PM): Who are you IMing, Jamie?
Me (7/18/2009 5:00:17 PM): Well, just so you know, I can see that you are sending messages to someone.
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:00:40 PM): hello love
Me (7/18/2009 5:00:50 PM): Hello there.
Me (7/18/2009 5:01:00 PM): what were all those messages?
Me (7/18/2009 5:01:04 PM): that never came to me? [lol, IM has told me each time he IM'd another victim, I question him. He's about to use a very common scammer tactic IGNORE THE QUESTION, LOL]
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:01:30 PM): hello
Me (7/18/2009 5:01:42 PM): hello, can you see this message?
Me (7/18/2009 5:02:42 PM): Jamie, are you online with someone else?
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:03:03 PM): hELLO
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:03:10 PM): Did you see what am typing
Me (7/18/2009 5:03:20 PM): No, only 'hello' 3 different times. Nothing else.
Me (7/18/2009 5:03:38 PM): Jamie? R U There?
Me (7/18/2009 5:04:39 PM): Jamie Grant, are you here?@!
Me (7/18/2009 5:05:03 PM): I just tried to call you and got the message that the number I am calling is not reachable.
Me (7/18/2009 5:05:17 PM): can you see my messages, Jamie
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:05:18 PM): hello
Me (7/18/2009 5:05:22 PM): hello
me (7/18/2009 5:05:29 PM): can you see this?
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:05:41 PM): can you see mine
Me (7/18/2009 5:05:45 PM): only Hello
Me (7/18/2009 5:05:55 PM): I've only seen hello 5 different times
Me (7/18/2009 5:06:20 PM): R U there Jamie?
Me (7/18/2009 5:06:37 PM): You ARE talking to someone else, aren't you!
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:06:59 PM): No
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:07:00 PM): I am here
Me (7/18/2009 5:07:15 PM): Then why don't you respond to me?
Me (7/18/2009 5:07:29 PM): I see so many 'Jamie is typing a message' but no mesage ever come sup.
Me (7/18/2009 5:07:39 PM): then you say 'hello' and go away again
Me (7/18/2009 5:07:49 PM): I tried to call you and got that message again.
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:07:50 PM): i am here
Me (7/18/2009 5:08:13 PM): What I wouldn't give to be able to see what you are doing on that end of the computer.
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:08:40 PM): I am here
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:08:44 PM): did you see what am typing
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:08:49 PM): my phone is off
Me (7/18/2009 5:08:52 PM): Nope.
Me (7/18/2009 5:09:07 PM): I only saw 'Hello' on 5 separate messages.
Me (7/18/2009 5:09:23 PM): I could see so many times 'Jamie is typing a message' but I never got those mesages.
Me (7/18/2009 5:09:34 PM): You wouldn't respond to my messages.
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:09:44 PM): hello
Me (7/18/2009 5:09:52 PM): hello
Me (7/18/2009 5:10:03 PM): Is that all you feel like saying?
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:09:50 AM): I am here mylove
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:09:55 AM): did you see what am dooing? [LOL, he thinks I 'saw' him and his i-cafe, lol, he would later ask if I have a cam]
Me (7/18/2009 5:10:25 PM): How can I see what you are doing.
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:10:09 AM): did you see what am typing
Me (7/18/2009 5:10:36 PM): I WISH I could see what was going on there.
Me (7/18/2009 5:10:50 PM): Jamie, for the 5th time. No, I cannot see what you are typing.
Me (7/18/2009 5:11:12 PM): IM tells me that you are typing messages but they NEVER come to me.
Me (7/18/2009 5:12:04 PM): where are you jamie and what are you doing to me?
Me (7/18/2009 5:12:28 PM): This is why I run and hide from you.
Me (7/18/2009 5:12:49 PM): You play with my heart.
Me (7/18/2009 5:13:40 PM): Who did you select the hearts for, Jamie?
Me (7/18/2009 5:13:46 PM): Certainly NOT ME. You are ignoring me.
Me (7/18/2009 5:14:09 PM): And, you wonder why I run from you.
Me (7/18/2009 5:14:34 PM): THIS IS WHY JAMIE. This is why I run.
Me (7/18/2009 5:53:31 PM): R U here?
Me (7/18/2009 5:54:00 PM): Jamie?
Jamie (7/18/2009 5:54:03 PM): hey
Me (7/18/2009 5:54:08 PM): There you are.
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:53:51 AM): am here
Me (7/18/2009 5:54:20 PM): will you talk with me now?
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:54:08 AM): yeah mylove
Me (7/18/2009 5:54:31 PM): what happened before?
Me (7/18/2009 5:54:51 PM): All I could see was that you were typing messages but nothing ever came to me and you didn't respond to me.
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:55:00 AM): Its because you got booted alot [LOL, he blames me again, lol]
Me (7/18/2009 5:55:31 PM): it kept me from seeing you when I got back online?
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:55:49 AM): did you see what am tying now
Me (7/18/2009 5:56:20 PM): I saw this:
Me (7/18/2009 5:56:22 PM): 'Jamie: Its because you got booted alot Me: it kept me from seeing you when I got back online? Jamie is typing a message. Jamie: did you see what am tying now'
Me (7/18/2009 5:56:40 PM): Is that what you wrote to me?
Jamie (7/18/2009 1:56:29 AM): yeah honey
Get educated and be blessed!! <><
anonymous from United States
Hey, Agent 86, it's <><, I do have a question.
Can scammers attack call phones/pdas? I'm an issue with my phone since my scammer sent me a couple of texts about a month back.
I am sorry to hear, Your having trouble with, Your phone.
I am also sorry, I know absolutely nothing about phones
and texting. I have never had a cell a phone and do not know
anything about them.
I barely know how to get on line and send messages.
I learned how to copy and paste from Wanwan.
My daughter who got me started on computers for the first time
in 2007 never helped, Me learn anything.
I type with one finger. LOL My new Lap Top can burn CD's ?
I have no idea how to do that. LOL
My computer has many things that, I know nothing about.
I lost one computer to the scammers and have learned at least
how to protect myself. LOL
Bad Dog and Wanwan and OJAS are very smart when it comes to computers,
and technical things.
I am old school on most everything.
I hope, You can find out whats wrong ?
I will contact the guy's and see if they can help, You.
Bless, You alway's
Be Blessed 2009-08-25, 07:51:47,
First it will make conversations easier, if you replace anonymous with an alphanumeric signature.
The answer to both is questions is yes. First pda is just like any other computer, you need to keep your protection up to date. In my cell phone, all I have is a few pix (mostly scenery) and some a small set of phone numbers in the address book. But hackers are NOT after these! They want to call from any phone, and charge it to someone else. A few days ago when I was in traveling in the middle of nowhere, my cell rang, I ALWAYS screen my calls (to avoid telemarketeers) and guess what? It was going into my voice mail, a tone similar to fax machine! I never answer digital calls and other nonsense. When my next bill arrives, will know if some computer was scanning for vulnerable cell numbers, so they can spam them with text, or telemarketeers! I will post an update (in a few weeks) if something bad like hacking occurred.
I.H.S. from United States
OJAS, thanks so much for the pda info. I don't have any pics other than wallpaper images on my cell phone and only a few contacts. However, my concern has been exactly what you stated hackers are after -- the use of my phone number.
I have a touch screen pda (not an iPhone). The touch screen goes completely dark after a couple of mintues w/o use and only lights with an incoming call, IM, email, or text message. Since I was scammed, I've noticed the touch screen will suddenly light up without any incoming calls or messages.
Also, I have my pda set to automatically check for Windows Updates and it always performed successfully. Just after I shut down my scammer and the touch screen issues began, my Windows updates are always unsuccessfuly, even if I manually check for updates. The failure is always: 'connection to update service is not available. Check data connection settings and ensure date and time are correct.' I've checked my data connection and date and time are correct.
Any activity on my phone shows up online without an hour or two. So far, I haven't seen any calls, messages, etc. I did not make or receive, but I am concerned. I called my phone provider and expressed my concern about someone using my phone right after I cut off my scammer in late July. I was told the only way someone could 'use my phone' is if I physically handed my phone to someone to use. Is this true?
If a scammer has hacked my phone and using it for calls, is it something attached to my telephone number or to the device itself?
I never answer calls from unfamiliar numbers either, they roll right into voicemail. Not on my home phone or my pda. It all rolls into voicemail.
About the fax tone that went into your voicemail. I've had that same thing happen. Has anything showed up on your phone bill? The fax machines where I work are 'smart enough' to deal with voicemail. Let's hope that's all it was for both of us.
As you suggested, I tried entering I.H.S. in place or Anonymous. Hope I did it corectly.
Thanks so much. I look forward to your response. <><
I.H.S. from United States
Hey, Agent 86! Love the cartoon on your last post. LOL. I am old school too. Computer troubles at the office are easy. I can pick up a phone 24/7, yell 'Help' and IT comes running. Not the case at home, LOL, and there have been times I've wanted to do just what the guy in that cartoon is doing. LOL!
I'm laughing - I can relate to not having a clue how to do utilize 80% of my computer's capabilities. I learned how to 'play' a CD but I've had this desktop 2 years now and still have NO clue how to use the CD or DVD burners, how to use edit videos, etc.
Thanks so much, Agent, for summoning OJAS. I feared what he confirmed could be happening. I'll see what he has to say to my follow-up questions.
A new question for you, Agent: Is it possible to do a search here to see if an email is listed in a male scammer post?
I was going to close my MySpace page but decided not to. I'm leaving it up and I'm going to report every obvious scammer who leaves me a message. My contribution to the good fight!
LOL, I had a banner day yesterday. 5 messages in 25 minutes, lol. I think one was just an obnoxious guy, but 3 were obvious scammers and 1 I'm 90% sure was a scammer. One of the obvious scammers left his email address in the message and I swear I've seen it. It was either here or another site. email@example.com
Thanks so much, Agent.
Be abundantly blessed! <><
OJAS from United States
If a scammer has hacked my phone and using it for calls, is it something attached to my telephone number or to the device itself?
Instead of waiting for the next bill, another way is to visit the local phone office and demand to know all the outgoing calls billed to that number since the last bill, and compare that printout with known number. This could also be done by calling the billing department, if you have the patience to go thru their menu tree and the hold music.
I start to believed that we got the same man here,
All love talk, pink roses, poems,baby crying in the back ground,meet him on myspace as well.but his cucassian in the photo, I wont mention his name,pretty sure the same man.
womens talking, like they are on the park,contacting me 4.00am, conversation cut off always in hurry.
1.30pm cos of time difference, deep voice.. he cough a bit
to catch up his breathe, all the lovely words are the same to mine.All the dates
from june to july are copied almost the same reason but different places of stranded .
soon he is going to call me...but no more drama ..I think he likes to victimize
widower...I wont say nothing to him but he will pressure me of cash... he will dump me for sure
because I got nothing to give. Hurts but has to end ..I was willing to help if its real..baby crying maybe nothing to eat..I fell sorry in some way but its nice if genuine,