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The following text was submitted by Eddie from Sweden and the links at the bottom come from OJAS in the USA.

Welcome to any newcomers who find this thread, for Christ's sake.. READ THIS!
...and save yourself a lot of homework and/or grief

SOME GENERAL INFO ABOUT RUSSIAN GIRLS, AND HOW TO SPOT RUSSIAN DATING SCAMMERS:

The vast majority of Russian dating scammers are not women at all, but actually men, mostly working in small gangs in or around Yoshkar Ola, in Mari El republic, sometimes in Chuvashia. It's virtually guaranteed that the girls in these scam pics aren't involved because the scammers steal their pics from the internet or pay unsuspecting friends for them, or buy and exchange them on scammer websites. (Once a scammer even admitted to me that he stole all his pics from army-of-brides.com and mamba.ru ).

Most scammers are VERY lazy and looking for quick cash. They use email extractor programs to get your mail addresses (if you don't have a profile on a dating site, that is)...
http://www.webextractor.com/
and copied form mails and spam programs on automatic reply, very often the BAT!, which can personalize small parts of each letter.
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/


They mostly won't read your letters until after the money letter because they don't have time, ie because they're scamming, or trying to scam, as many guys as they can (economies of scale).....and also because they're semi-literate losers who can't speak much English anyway. IN OTHER WORDS, you can write any crap in your replies and they won't react, they're only interested when they're curious to know if you've taken the bait after the money letter. A girl is only involved either occasionally to phone a guy up, especially if he's suspicious, or to pick up the loot at Western Union, with a false ID of course!

More recently, the majority of Russian scammers have started using proxy servers or forged IPs to hide their locations so ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS TRACE THEIR IP ADDRESS!

If, by any chance, you don't believe any of this, please read: http://www.cheboksaryrussia.net/russian-scams/russian-scammers.html

So....if several or more of the following scam signs apply to your Boris (the beautiful Russian 'girl' that is supposedly writing to you), resist the temptation to help 'the poor girl' by sending her money. You're really writing to a sleazy Russian guy sitting in a smoky room in Yoshkar Ola, with a bunch of other sleazy guys spamming indiscriminately on laptops .

  • 'girl' writes to you first on a dating site...especially a free one (or an email appears out of nowhere in your mailbox). Real Russian girls are rarely so bold as to write to you first. (unless you're obviously very attractive or rich :))) They will often reply to your mails, but rarely take the initiative. It's the man who does the chasing in Russia. Plus, if they're looking for a partner, they generally prefer him to be Russian speaking and live in Russia. Much more convenient!

  • doesn't answer direct questions (sometimes factual mistakes in the letter). Her replies should be exactly that...replies...however short they are.

  • girl's much too young for you (or too good to be true/looks like a model/porno star)....although I have noticed a recent tendency for some scammers to use photos of slightly 'less attractive' girls as well.

  • girl has some far-fetched excuses for you not visiting her in Russia (criminal city, not the Russian custom, terrorism, it's her dream to come to your country, etc). ALL BULLSHIT!! Actually, the normal way to meet a Russian girl is to visit her in her city first. Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc. They should usually want to meet you first before they gallivant off to your country.

  • scammers rarely have children, but most of the real Russian women I've ever met on the internet did (except for Moscow career girls). It's often the reason that they're looking for a partner.

  • photos are too revealing (can't be a respectable girl). Respectability is very important to most Russian women (especially Moscow career girls). They're hardly likely to send a half-naked photo to a virtual stranger on the internet. Think about it!

  • most of the pics are old and a little bit faded with a curiously grainy quality that soon becomes quite easy to recognise (overuse?). Again a scammer admitted to me that low-quality photos are a key factor in his scamming. I found this curious because a serious Russian girl who's looking for a partner very often saves up and goes to a professional to have a studio set done (often corny ones posing with a chair etc), and/or borrows a digicam at least (dates should also be on the photos you receive). My fiancée did it. Russian girls aren't all that poor anymore, and if they seriously want to leave Russia, they know that posting cheap pics will only attract cheap guys.

  • GIRL CLAIMS NOT TO HAVE A MOBILE PHONE. Very unlikely!!! fer f***'s sake.....do you know a single girl without a mobile phone? Even poor Russian girls can't do without one, they're much cheaper than in Europe and a Megafon telephone card doesn't cost that much either. You should be able to call her whenever you want. On the other hand, not having a landline or a desktop/laptop is very common.

  • very long rambling/ecstatic form letters with a strange format, punctation and layout written in scamlish. (world's worst Babelfish translation)

  • writes long letters everyday in English. How does she have time to write those long letters if she's working? And if she doesn't have a job, how can she afford a computer + internet connection? Even Internet cafés are relatively expensive in Russia. Anyway, most Russians outside Moscow can hardly speak a word of English. (What's the point of finding a girl you can't communicate with, at least on a basic level?) PLUS.. if she can't speak English, why does she have a non-cyrillic email account like gmail or yahoo? Most real Russians use mail.ru, yandex.ru or inbox.ru....though hotmail and yahoo are acceptable if she'll chat with you on messenger (preferably with a webcam).

  • falls in 'love' very quickly. Don't let your ego, kind heart, loneliness or lust pull the wool over your eyes. She doesn't really know you. You could be an axe murderer for all she knows. As I mentioned, Russian TV is full of documentaries about Russian girls who have emigrated and got murdered, abandoned, etcetc.

  • uses a proxy server to hide his/her location, ie a SOCKS server / GPRS Internet. if you can't trace 'her' IP, it's 100% scam.
    THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS TRACE HER IP ADDRESS. In fact, it's the only thing you need to do really.

    MOST IMPORTANT...if you get this far:

  • she asks for money for a tourist 'visa' and/or maybe tickets, ignoring the fact that IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR A SINGLE, POOR RUSSIAN GIRL TO GET A TOURIST VISA TO A WESTERN COUNTRY!
    Most Russian girls outside Moscow and St Petersburg are quite poor, and immigration control would consider them an overstay risk. They would never let be let into your country without a healthy bank account.

    She can get a SPONSORED visa with your help, but then she needs a personal letter of invitation from you, a copy of your passport, a proof of your residence in your home country, a completed sponsor's application form (also from you)....not including the documents that she has to fill in herself. She also needs a job in Russia, a letter from her employer and insurance. All of these documents she has to drop off at your national embassy in Moscow WITH PREPAID TICKETS and wait about 10 working days. These are the rules for the Schengen countries anyway...the USA and Canada are almost as, if not more, complicated. Anyway, a normal TOURIST visa + travel costs + hotel rooms would set her back 2000+ US dollars for a trip to the US. She should be asking you for a lot of money! Why should it be so easy for a gorgeous sexy Russian girl just to jump on a plane and fall into bed with you? Anyway, no respectable Russian girl would ask directly for money, but might accept some if you insisted.

NB...you should check your national embassy website in Moscow for visa prices and procedures.
UK: http://www.ukvac-ru.com/document.aspx
USA: http://moscow.usembassy.gov/consular/consular.php?record_id=reqvdocs

There are many variations on the scams, some quite slight. Some scammers claim to have a visa already and need money for tickets, a last-minute medical examination, etcetc. Some claim that their mother needs an operation, etcetc. A few more patient and professional scammers will take months before they hit you with the money letter (though if you follow my tips, you should be able to spot the scammers before then). There are even a few real girls scamming, and professional gold-diggers (mostly in the Ukraine). One or two of them are very bold, and not even afraid to use their true identities. These scammers are harder to spot, and there is no easy way to identify them, all you can do is use your instincts and common sense, and DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

and, of course, a golden rule: DON'T SEND MONEY...unless you're 100% sure she's real.

Another ground rule: if you are looking for a Russian wife/partner, you must be prepared to travel to Russia to meet her. You also need to behave generously towards her; after all, you need to prove that you can support here (and her kids) if she migrates to your country. But if she turns out to be a professional gold-digger, which has never happened to me personally or anyone I know (but I know it does happen), you should try to be philosophical and treat it as an exotic trip to a foreign country, have fun anyway, and try not to waste too much money on her.

There are actually hundreds of perfectly nice Russian girls in Russia but you have to be prepared to go and get them. Chercher la femme. It certainly worked for me.




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2010-04-06, 15:27:08
anonymous from United States  
I have been scammed by someone I met on Match.com who identifies himself as George Casey and also has a son named Micheal Casey who is currrently living in Ghana and Nigeria. Micheal is a true scammer asking for money, cell phones etc. He provides addresses of people with different names in order for someone to send him packages or money. I sent him a small amount of money as a test to see if it was picked up and it was. I did this to prove that he is a scammer and it was cheaper than hiring a detective. George, the alleged father has been talking to me for a year and telling me how much he loves me and wants to marry me when he retires. I know that he is also a scammer and the real General Casey would never lower himself to being on a dating web site. He is also married. Michael's e-mail is miccase@live.com. If anyone else has encountered this please notify me on the site.
2010-04-09, 01:59:01
anonymous from Canada  
I would like to report Lee Cardholder as a U.K. scammer. She is very convincing and lies 'like a sidewalk'. She uses the email address of saintly_lee77@yahoo.com. Believe me she is anything but saintly! She currently receives transfers under the name of Machel Malcolm located in the London area. This scammer claims to be originally from Wisconsin, U.S.A.
Please put this person out of business for a long time.
2010-04-10, 12:05:15
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Hi People

Have had contact with a girl from Nigeria goes by the name of Lara george 30 years old and very attractive. The conversations were very personal and inviting my alarm bells started ringing as soon as money was mentioned all be it very carefully phrased. I ignored it and thats when the demands started being direct with the usual sob story that her mother was involved in a car accident and need help to pay the bills. As soon as I said no money she has not contacted me since. My curiousity has got me trying to track her down so does anyone know her?? She works from a place in Lagos Island and from somewhere near Kurmin bin station in Nigeria.
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2010-04-10, 12:52:39
OJAS from United States  
UK above this post, update Alison Angel Thread http://www.delphifa..=28#160009
2010-04-10, 14:35:01
anonymous from United Kingdom  
Thanks to OJAS from the USA I now know a lot more about her.

I met her on a dating site called Housewives direct link and dating site for wifes looking for dates. She used the ID kefe12345 and sule12345 and her email address is larag01@yahoo.com and was active March 2010. Her IP traces her to the place in Nigeria. see Dating scammer Natalya (natalya@coalro.biz) from Russia for the start of her career. Have posted another photo


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2010-04-10, 17:46:48
Miss Marple from United States  
@WANWAN

MY friend in Japan !!
You are having the flu???
im getting worried...
I hope you are getting better soon..
BTW i made it to the USA as you see with this aircraft ...LOL...
please take care see you !!

mata-ne!

Miss Marple and the flying beagle....


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2010-04-11, 23:48:32
anonymous from Australia  
Wanwan unsure if you have this one


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2010-04-11, 23:53:06
anonymous from Australia  
also does anyone know this lady,45 approached me fromUK/Ghana


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2010-04-12, 01:17:46
Eddie from Sweden  
A blonde white girl in Ghana = guaranteed scam
2010-04-12, 01:19:05
Eddie from Sweden  
2010-04-10, 14:35:01
anonymous from United Kingdom

more pics of a famous soft porn actress
2010-04-16, 02:01:24
anonymous from Netherlands  
this is a real scammer,,he says his name is mr Andrew Morre fro machester,,but he is a big liar works with gems and diamonds for the compagny www.globalgemsltdco.uk...its a fake website he ask me to send to him 118.000 euro bcos he has not enough money to send diamonds to the royal family in Saudi Arabia and then he us going to loose his contract,if he dont have the money soon,,,i have 2 phone numbers 1 for the uk and 1 for ghana,,,


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2010-04-20, 08:14:21   (updated: 2010-04-20, 08:23:25)
anonymous from United States  
'Umu' Kamaru Dini. Suppoused to be from Ghana. Needs $75 USD to 'register' her phone so she can talk to you. VERY believable. Strung her along for a couple weeks. Just pulled the string today. Man this is fun!
2010-04-24, 14:09:37
anonymous from United States  
Want to protect yourself against a potential scammer? It's quite simple....

NEVER...EVER...AND I MEAN NEVER...SEND ANY MONEY TO ANYONE YOU HAVE NEVER MET.

It doesn't matter if you have exchanged a million emails filled with 'love.'

It doesn't matter if you have talked with this person a thousand times by phone.

It doesn't matter if you have had the most wonderful experience of your life on webcam or any web conferencing event.

Forget what your 'feelings' tell you at the time... you are now a compassionate and loving person ready to have your wallet stolen by an internet pickpocket.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN...

NEVER...EVER...AND I MEAN NEVER...SEND ANY MONEY TO ANYONE YOU HAVE NEVER MET.
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2010-04-25, 15:22:45
anonymous from Australia  
how about this lady


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2010-04-27, 08:22:51
anonymous  
I have been contacted by 10 of these people in the last 3 weeks, all say there from the U.S. in their profile, but turn out when contacted they have a dad that died while living in the U.S. and now live with there 'mum' in ghana or someplace in nigeria. What do they have a handbook over there on how to scam> because they all use the same story. Another trick is most of the time they dont change there name completely, just rearrange it a little.Yahoo personal is getting to be the worst, you can pick them out as soon as they contact you. Look at the pictures carefully, for backdrops, as these are professional pictures mostly of models. Another thing i noticed is if they say there from america and have a picture of a carpet or rug that is mostly seen in the middle east or africa. You can tell a lot about a picture if you examine it.Another bad dating site is meeting in north dakota. I have contacted both of them and no response.
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