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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.

Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.


    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.

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2009-05-12, 04:10:44
wanwan from Japan  
@2009-05-12, 00:36:48
anonymous from United Kingdom

Thank you for your friendly message !!
And please waiting for me.
Now I am very hungry so
I am eating some foods and someting to drink.
Give me some time ,ok?
And you know ,I am not a good scenario writer,
now I think about second scenario.
If you will love my second scenario,
please give me your comment,ok?

See soon my friend anon UK !

from funny English speaker wanwan.
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2009-05-12, 07:11:57
Magnus from Skara, Sweden

2009-05-12, 07:19:42
Magnus from Skara, Sweden  
Exactly like Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan from Sisian in Armenia have Alivtina Sokolova from Russia falce and fake passport.Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan drawed and scammed mine money with falce passport in this year and the last year on Ardshininvest bank in Sisian in Armenia.
2009-05-12, 07:31:12
Magnus from Skara, Sweden  
Thanks Wan wan for your words about Alivtina Skolova.She has falce passport like Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan also have.The Moneygram in Sweden knows now that Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan have falce passport and falce identitycards.Anna Ogannisyan and Anahit Nahapetyan gonna get problems to draw and scam more money from more men in the Ardshininvest bank in Sisian and even in other banks.Now they are blacklisted in all of this world and I hope they gonna do a misstake soon so they gonna be arrested soon.You know,one to misstake of them and the police got them.They know it and we know it.It is interesting to know when they been arrested in Sisian in Armenia or in some other city or country.I hope you feels fine.See you soon.
2009-05-12, 12:55:57
wanwan from Japan  
2009-05-12, 14:10:14
wanwan from Japan  
@my boys!!

Do you love US TV drama '' Lost ''?
I love it.But still season 3 on the air in Japan.
And I have found this ,see it

Russian crazy scammers steal her photo and use it for scamming.
Russian scammer,a disgusting fellow.
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2009-05-12, 14:22:48
wanwan from Japan  
@my boys!!

Do you watch '' Heroes''?
See it

Her picture has been stolen by Russian scammers.

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2009-05-13, 00:32:37   (updated: 2009-05-13, 00:33:35)
wanwan from Japan  

Hi,how are you?
I had lost my access privilege to
So I could not reply you ,I am sorry ,my mate.
Now I have got an access privilege ,I can come onto here.
I love to read your posts.
And see it

Russian scammers trying hide their final host server name,
so we can't trace their final host server(can't find their final real IP address) .

By the way do you bust this russian beautiful girl ?
Is she(he) eating your sweet bait?

see you soon my mate,
from funny english speaker wanwan

2009-05-13, 00:51:13   (updated: 2009-05-13, 00:52:13)
wanwan from Japan  
IP Information -
Host name
Country Russian Federation
Country Code RU
Region Mariy-El
City Yoshkar-ola
Latitude 56.6369
Longitude 47.8711
Whois Information

but see it
「unknown 」

She(he) trying hide her ,final,real IP address.
I know that you already have known about it.
I love your posts.

see you
mata-ne(it means '' see you again in Japanese'').

2009-05-13, 03:08:39   (updated: 2009-05-13, 03:11:28)
CPH from United States  
Wanwan. Thanks for the remarks. Looks like my 'Mariya' re-surfaced somewhere else. I've not seen this picture before. I've tagged the image on this page with the same information found on previous pages.

It got to the point that 'Mariya' was on to my game and eventually quit writing. But I did get a chance to send one final Kiss my Ass in Russian. I have a Russian friend who gave me some pretty harsh words in Russian to pass on to the scammer. Should I post the words and English translation here?
2009-05-13, 06:30:16
OJAS from United States  
Good job CPH. Please post what you sent, with translation. I have been suggesting:

When you decide you have had enough, block your scammer and send Grande Finale in Cyrillic http://www.delphifa..=22#99529

Translation http://www.delphifa..=22#99530

What does your Russian friend think of this Grande Finale? I will plan on its next edition. If your friend can help, that will be great. Some choice words for scammers is towards the end of this article http://www.delphifa..l#comments
2009-05-13, 06:46:36
wanwan from Japan  

Thanks !!
I have got it !
I see you have a good preparation ,final kiss,grand finale.
We are waiting for your grand finale.
Let's waste their time together.
I love your posts.
see soon,my mate.
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2009-05-13, 10:05:04
wanwan from Japan  
Now '' season 2 '' on the air .The drama is a scam artist '' Alivtina Sokolo' '
(Scam Artist Sokolova was trying to scam me,so I pretended to be an innocent man.
I have sent a receipt copy of Western Union and I emailed my funny letter to her.
please read it as follows:)

Dear,my love Alla!!

I have remit $1,000.00 to you.
So you got it.
Come on and love me,my love Alla.
This is a receipt of Western Union.
Already I gave you my all personal info.
And I filled MTCN number (money transfer
control number)in that receipt.
So please print it out,then you can show it to
Western Union.You can get my money $1,000.00
And tell me your flight time soon.

I love you ,my Alla.
fondle me please,,,,.

by the way ,,,,,,please listen.
At first I had remit $5,000.00 to you,Alla.
But manager ,Christoper(Western Union)said to me
'' Sir,xxxxx we can't remit 1,000.00 over today.The reason
we have to investigate this passport informations more,,,''
So he says '' Sir,xxxxx ,excuse me but again visit us for this passport''.
I don't see why he said so.Something wrong?
Now they are investigating it more,,,.But I don't know the reason why,,.

Alla,I am waiting for your coming to US.
I love you.
And I have a reservation ,to make love all day all night.
I love your xxxxxxx,,,.
Please fondle my xxxxx with your lovely mouth.

let me know your flight time,and
visit JFK airport.Never forget it .
I will be there,ok?
from your xxxxxxxx
(Don't worry.This story was a complete fabrication. I made up this funny story.The manager Christoper
of Western Union is a fictitious per. )
( I sent a bad quality file of a receipt copy of Western Union.I know she can not find MTCN.
I am trying to tease her.Because she is a crazy russian scammer!! Please read her mail as follows:)

Good morning my most gentle xxxxxxxx.
I since the morning go to the Internet of cafe to see your letter with good news.
I see the letter and you have written that helped this money I am very glad to
me also I send many kisses to you xxxxx. I at once speak that in the document
which you have sent I that I can not disassemble, the photo of the document of
bad quality and is not visible letters absolutely, I ask to write all exact
information to the letter. Or to send a photo of high quality.
I today wait from you for a prompt reply. I need to know from you number MTSN,
from what city you have sent money. I very much hurry up and as I have money
at once I shall arrive to you as I have tickets aboard the plane I I shall
inform you all exact information and you can meet me. I strongly worry and
very much I wish to be with you beside.
I love you and I ask to write more quickly the information.
I wait for the letter your most good bride Alivt.
(When I have read her reply ,I laughed my head off !! Again I sent a bad quality file of receipt copy.
I tried to tease her again. her mail as follows:)

My dear xxxxxxxxxxx.
At you now night and I wait for the letter as you will wake up.
I ask to write the information of transfer of money as I cannot look in the document which you xxxx have sent me.
In this document letters and figures are very badly visible. I think you xxxxxx understand it.
I love you xxxx and I wait for a prompt reply. 100000000 kisses to mine xxxxxxxxxx.
Your bride Alivtina.

(I sent it ,please read as follows:)
Dear sincere my love Alla,

I love you and give you my kiss 10000000000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
By the way sorry ,so I again send you a receipt of WU.
I already had remitted $1,000.00 to you ,so you can get it any way.
Again I sending you the receipt of WU.
It's a high quality file so you can print it out.

And you will get my money,
hurry to let me know your flight time.
Now I dreaming to have an xxxx xxxx with you Alla,
Please fondle my xxxxx,and have my xxxxxxxxxx.
I will shot my xxxxxxx to your lovely mouth.
Everyday I dream of it,Alla.
Do you want to have a xxx with me?
Please reply it to me.
See soon,my love
(Everytime I sent a bad quality file of receipt copy of Western U. I teased her.So Sokolova has got angry with me ! Read it as follows:)

Good morning my dear xxxxxxx.
I have received the letter and I speak that in this file which you have sent
I cannot to disassemble and write that the code. I also ask you that you have written
to me all in the letter and it is not necessary to send me this photo as there that
it is not visible. In bank such do not accept. In bank I need to fill all exact
information most and after that to me can give money. Tell xxxxxxxxxxxxxx why you do not write
the information letters to me? I have strongly grown fond of you xxxxxxxx and I hurry up
to you xxxx, and I do not wish to be long in Moscow, I want to you. I wait for a
prompt reply and I ask to not be late.
ps. I ask you xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to write to me the information letters a hand in the letter.
After that I can receive money, I think that at us in Russia other rules,
and you xxxxxxxxx should understand it. I kiss you also think every minute.
Your most gentle bride Alivtina.

My darling xxx, now I have come from bank and to me have told that I had the exact information,
this number MTSN, a full name a surname, the country, city from where translated money,
I have your address. I ask to write it and I without delays to runaway to receive money to buy
tickets and documents to take away. As I have all I shall send all exact information of flight
to you as without money to me cannot give documents. I think that you understand me.
I ask to not test any more me. I wait for the letter and I ask to write the letter as soon as possible.
Yours Alivtina.

(please calm down my Alla !! I teased . )
I have sent this receipt copy of Western Union.

2009-05-13, 11:03:36
wanwan from Japan  
Now this is a '' season 3 '' on the air. The story of scam artist Alivtina Sokolo.
( I think that I try to tease her and try to rob her of her forged VISA.I made up a funny scenario)

Dear my Alla,

Do you love me?
Please answer me it,,,
I love you so much my apple,Alla,

By the way sorry about my sending file.
It's not perfect,but I didn't know it till you told it to me,,.
I use now Windows XP,so it's not perfect for us to send a file
from US to Russia,I guess so.

Now I am in Western Union,and I ask for MTCN ,
because I filled it in that file and sent you it.Now I
forgot MTCN,so again I come to Western Union,
and ask for it to teller of Western Union.
Teller laughted at me but she is so kind,now teaching me
that MTCN number.

So give me some time,Alla.
I am preparing send it to you.

I love you ,Alla,
And fondle my xxxxxx with your killing mouth.
I will insert my xxxxxx into your lovely xxxxxxx,
and will shoot my xxxxxxx into your xxxxxxx
that is my dream,Alla,,,

And never forget to tell the flight time from Russia to US.
Sure,Choose JFK airport,please.

I love you ,and love my xxxxxxxx
waiting for me ,,,
xxxxxxxxxx Washington
(scammer sokolova replied me as follows:)

I strongly love you xxxxxx and when I shall not throw you.
Today Wednesday and it on April 15 and passes is a lot of time that we with you speak
and as we can not meet each other. I cannot long be in Moscow as it expensively for me,
I ask to write to me any words --- it important as I strongly love you xxxxxxx.
I wait from you for the answer with the full information of transfer of money.
Remember that has worked hard for that to be only with you xxx to arrive to you as soon as possible.
I love and I wait every minute for good news. I do not wish to lose I trust in the love.
I think that you xxx understand me. I strongly whole you also wait for the letter.
Your most gentle Alivt.
(Please read my funny fabrication story)

Dear,my love

Please send me your copy of airplane tickets.
Today xxxx airport Hotel calls me and asks it.
I have a reservation our room(for xxxxxxxxxxx),
but we have to keep it valid so,we need your copy
,air plane tickets.The Hotel says '' Sir but hurry up
to show the copy''
Alla,please sent it as soon as you can.
When you will sent it ,then I will send MTCN number.

I love you,
xxxx airport Hotel is a high grade one.
I have a sweet room reservation for our xxxxxxxxxxx.
fondle my xxxxxxxxxxx with your mouth,
I dream of it.
your xxxxxxxx

hurry up to send your airplane tickets copy,please.
( I teased . )
(She emailed me as follows:)

Good morning my road and the darling xxxxxxxx, I so strongly experience for that that
I cannot arrive to you and I have lost hope, I ask that you made any way that help
to me and I promise that I shall be for you the most ideal wife.
Today Thursday on April 16 and I see your letter and is very glad, I jump with
happiness that you have written to me and it very much not good news as I have no tickets,
it from for that that I without pocket money cannot take away all the documents in embassy,
and I can not purchase tickets without documents, but you xxx do not experience as all
is ready and as soon as I have the sufficient sum of money I at once I take away tickets
documents and run to you. As I have money and I can inform tickets to you.
I think you xxx have understood me. I am very glad that you do not throw me a difficult
minute and I love you xxx. I trust in our strong love to each other and I ask the god that
we were in a place and for all life. Now I had a strong belief in you that you speak help
to me, and thus the most important now for me to arrive to you more quickly and to become
for you the most gentle wife, for all life. Tell as you xxx I wish to know that at you
all well and you are enamoured in me. As I have strongly grown fond of you xxx and
I do not wish to give whom to other woman. You xxxx only mine and I love you.
I ask to speak all the ideas it it is necessary to me the nobility precisely?
I shall wait how many you xxxx to me tell as I very much wish to be with you beside in embraces.
I trust that we we shall be happy also I very much I want that at us all was good.
I love you and I wait for the letter I ask to not be late.
Your most gentle bride Alivt.
(I made up funny scenario,so please read it)

Dear my Alla,
I have got it,
I see you don't have a ticket.
But xxxxx airport Hotel manager Mike .J.Bush
requires your tickes or someting.Because you
are not American.When foreigner will have a reservation,
US Hotel tries to get the guarantee( they fear the tero).
I say '' Alla will be my future wife''.The manager Mike
'' I see Sir,but we xxxx Hotel need some guarantee''.
'' If you have a VISA,we need it ,Sir,please'' he said so.
The reason is that US Embassy gave Alla a permission,
so you can get a VISA.It's an evidence to xxxx Hotel.

I promise,when you will send a VISA,I will send MTCN
as soon as I can.If you won't send it,I can't keep our reservation
of JFK(for xxxxxxx).I have to keep our sweet room for our xxxxxxx.
So please ,will send your VISA for US,
Already Alla you said'' I have got a VISA '',so send it to me hurry.
It's easy for you Alla to send it to US.
When I will get it,I will show it to xxxx Hotel,then I can keep
our room reservations for our xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Already Alla ,you are mine.Your mouth,eyes,legs,xxxxxussy,
xxxxx,are all mine.I dreamin' about our xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
And I know you need my big xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Come on Alla,
So send your VISA for US,hurry.

I am waiting for you with impatience.
From your future husband,xxxxxxxxxxxx
(don't worry,my readers !! This story was a complete fabrication.Mike J Bush is a fictitious per. )
( I tried to rob her of her forged VISA,but she ignored my request.)

Good morning mine xxxx, and many hot kisses to you xxxx, and the most good day and mood to you xxxx.
I wait when we shall kiss and embrace each other. I at once speak you xxxx that I can not give to
you any document as this all in embassy, all documents are ready but to me them will not give as
I have no money so you should understand it. As soon as I have money, I at once go to take away my
documents on a trip to you as I have documents I I can purchase tickets, this all made by turns.
I ask help to me with this money and I at once can give you that that you ask, and I shall send the
information of flight to America. I am very tired and I want more quickly that all has ended also
I has quickly arrived to you to embraces. I wait for a prompt reply and I ask to not be late and help
to me with this money. I promise that I shall arrive to you so quickly and you will love me.
I love you xxxxx.
(Many times I have a negotiation with scammer Sokolova and asked her for sending her VISA.but she did
not send it to me,so I stopped emailing her.I have ignored her for few weeks.But I know that she refuses me because she needs my MTCN.Then finally she emailed me as follows:)

Good morning my darling xxxx.
Today Monday fine morning in a place big the sun. I think of you every minute and very much I wish to be line.
Tell when you to me help with money for arrival to you. I so dream much that we beat in a place for all life
and passes a lot of time and you ííí I trust that wait for me. I very much hope that news from you will be the
most good. I trust and I hope only for you xxxx. I strongly love you and I want that you knew it.
I want you xxxx for all life beside. I wait for the letter yours Alivtina.
(Finally she has sent me her forged VISA !! )

2009-05-14, 02:24:51
CPH from United States  
Here is the kiss-off, grande finale, one can send to a Russian Scammer, once you know it is a Scammer. It is very harshly spoken. The English translation is below. This particular was written to my scammer who used the name of 'Mariya':

'Maryia, если тот действительно - ваше название, и к траханию, которое симулирует быть Вами:

Я надеюсь, что это стоит Вам намного больше, чтобы трахнуться с людьми, чем Вы фактически возвращаетесь. Ублюдки как Вы принадлежат в тюрьме.

Почему не делают Вы делаете мир польза и идете, берут длинную прогулку на коротком пирсе. Поместите ваши проклятые усилия кое во что юридическое и стоящее вместо того, чтобы пробовать другим грабежа этим бычьим дерьмом.

Вы должны быть реальны гордящийся вами непосредственно позволяющими каждому в мире использовать вашу картину, чтобы пробовать вымогать деньги. Вы должны быть очень осторожными. Вы никогда не знаете, кого Вы могли бы возмутить, и они разыщут Вас.

Я буду держать пари, ваша мать и отец были бы реальны счастливый видеть то, до чего была их дочь на компьютере. Не имейте Вас никакое достоинство или позор? Отвяжитесь партия Вас! Когда-либо не затемняйте мой компьютер с вашим названием снова. В США мы называем женщин как Вы шлюхами. И это - точно, каковы Вы. Неряха.



Maryia, if that really is your name, and to the fuck that is pretending to be you:

I hope it is costing you much more to fuck with people than you are actually getting back. Bastards like you belong in jail.

Why dont you do the world a favor and go take a long walk on a short pier. Put your damn efforts into something legal and worthwhile instead of trying to ripoff others with this bullshit.

You must be real proud of yourself letting everyone in the world use your picture to try to extort money. You should be very careful. You never know who you might anger and they will track you down.

I'll bet your mother and father would be real happy to see what their daughter has been up to on the computer. Have you no dignity or shame? Fuck off the lot of you! Don't ever darken my computer with your name again. In the US we call women like you whores. And that's exactly what you are. A slut.

Fuck off.

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