Is this Russian girl scamming me? How to recognize scammers
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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.
Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:
If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:
the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.
Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!
ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.
BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.
AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.
*** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.
Hello, how is your day today? My name is Yulia. What's your name? I was given your email address in a dating agency that specializes in acquaintance with foreigners. I do not know if you want to answer my letter, but I'll be waiting for your answer with impatience. I am 31 years old, I would be glad to meet you. I want to find a new serious relationship with a man. If you are also looking for a serious relationship, I ask you to respond to my letter. Also I apply on mine letter my photo, I hope you will like it. I hope you will write me and also will send me your photo. I shall look forward to hearing from you very much. I wish you a wonderful day. SincereYulia!
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People are industrious and they will always look for ways to make money, A carpenter is going to build something, and when a pretty woman values her assets and can make money doing so, she's going to be inclined to establish a fair market price for the goods.
Scammer is a guy.
Scammer has stolen her photos.
She does'nt sell her pussy.
wanwan from Japan
DO NOT BE MAD @ ME !
Don't be mad at me because I don't work and have a nice ass. Don't be mad at me because I drive a LUXURY sports car (just purchased 3 weeks ago). Don't be mad at me because I always get in VIP in every club in town escorted or not. I am doing what every girl wishes they could do, and that is ME ! I don't lift one little finger to pay a bill or make a living, because my assets support me. Doing what I do pays off. So don't be mad at me because you go to work everyday and still struggle and want to be in my place. JUST SIMPLY GET ON MY LEVEL !
I hate it when people evil eye me, criticize me or try to judge me. They could do the same thing if they were as smart and as pretty as myself. I wish girls would step up their game and quit harping on mine.
That's all for now :)
anonymous from United States
anonymous from United States
I have been in contact with a woman from Russia for 2 months who says her name is Olga and she works in an Orphanage.
Now she has sent me about a dozen pictures and they all are of the same woman. Also she said that she wants to come
here to the US and live with me and that she liked my profile she found on a dating website called Mingles2. I already had 3
women who tried and scam me from there but I was careful and no money was sent. She says that she has been able to obtain
a visa but can't book a plain ticket because of a loan she took out from a bank to pay for these papers. So because of this loan/debt she can't leave Russia. I did do some research and found out that this is true, you can't leave Russia if you have an outstanding debt of some kind. Still yet though she hasn't asked for money or for the fact that she hasn't even ask me to marry her. What is anybodies opinion? Is this a scam or not? Here is a picture and please tell me if any of you have seen her on line anywhere before.
Travel/student Visa Scam. Bogus passport documents. S. H. (USA) Report N2
[hidden] from Fresno, United States
Has anyone had contact with Maria Henderson from Beloyarski, Russia? She claims to be a pediatrician that quit her job because of sexual harassment and could only find work as a nurse.
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Alex1976din from United States
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